Men in Gorilla Suits

Gorilla Christopher has been sick for a week, and it's Thanksgiving Day in the U.S., so let's get right to what we chat about this episode...about streaming services.

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  • When was the first time you heard of a streaming service? (Music or video)?
  • What’s the first streaming service you used?
  • How many streaming services do you use now?
  • How many are paid vs. unpaid?
  • How much do you spend on streaming?
  • What’s your favorite streaming service?
  • What’s the worst streaming service?
  • Do you still subscribe to cable/satellite or other TV?
  • Have you ever subscribed to a streaming service for one show only?
  • Is streaming a threat to traditional media?
  • Is that a bad thing if it is?
  • How has streaming changed your daily life, if at all?
  • What’s the future of streaming?

Direct download: migs284.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 12:26pm EST

Instead of complaining about how busy this week is for Gorilla Christopher, he's just going to post what he and Gorilla Shawn talked about this week:

  • When were you first aware of this thing called complaining?
  • Are you much of a complainer?
  • When you do complain, what do you tend to complain about?
  • How well do you handle being around people who complain?
  • Why do you think some people complain as much as they do?
  • What role do you think social media has played in complaining?
  • Where do you hear most of the complaining you’re exposed to?
  • Do you think complaining accomplishes much?
  • What do you most dislike hearing people complain about?
  • Do you think complaining can become almost addictive?
  • If someone wanted to stop complaining as much as they might, what advice would you give them?
  • What is the future of complaining?

Direct download: migs283.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:23am EST

Once you set foot on any Disney property, the sounds and colors will haunt your life for the rest of your days.

This week, we're talking about tourism. Specifically:

  • When’s the first time you remember hearing of the idea of traveling for fun, or to go see a thing/event?
  • When was your first “touristy” trip?
  • When you travel, is it for tourism, or is it task-oriented? (“I’m going to New York to see the Empire State Building” vs. “I’m going to New York for a work thing.”)
  • What’s the most touristy thing you’ve ever done?
  • What touristy thing do you hate?
  • What touristy thing do you want to do?
  • What’s something that you’ve gone somewhere to see, but very few people would even bother to seek out?
  • Do you wish you could travel for leisure more?
  • Have you ever worked in the tourism industry?
  • Have you ever had to deal with tourists?
  • What’s the future of tourism?

Direct download: migs282.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 10:44am EST

Some weeks, there are things you just have to accept. Not that it was a bad week, but Gorilla Christopher was like [to himself]: "'ll get the episode up at some point...worst case, Gorilla Shawn's always got your back..."

So here it is, in its snazzy glory...all about...stoicism...

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This is how it flows:

  • When did you first become aware of stoicism?
  • Do you consider yourself stoic?
  • Whether or not you consider yourself stoic, what are some of your stoic moments in life?
  • What are some good things about stoicism or being stoic?
  • What are some bad things about being stoic?
  • Do you think stoicism is avoidance?
  • And along that line of thinking, many will argue stoicism is anything BUT avoidance, because you are always prepared to deal with the worst. Do you think that’s a realistic way of looking at the world?
  • A tenet of stoicism is accepting the things you can and cannot control. Doing something about those things you can control…and letting the things you cannot roll off you. Your thoughts on that?
  • Do you agree that people should love all the things that happen to them?
  • Stoicism seems to have become a sort of buzzy philosophy among entrepreneurs. Do you think they really get stoicism?
  • Why do you think stoicism still endures today?
  • What is the future of stoicism?

Direct download: migs281.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 11:55am EST

Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far, unlit unknown
- Rush "Subdivisions"

This week, it's all about the suburbs!

Here's what we talk about:

  • How long have you lived in the suburbs?
  • What’s the first time you heard a mention of the suburbs?
  • Have you ever lived in the limits of a big city?
  • Which do you prefer? The suburbs or the city?
  • What’s the draw of suburbia for most people?
  • For us?
  • What’s the most suburban thing you’ve seen?
  • What’s the most suburban thing you’ve done?
  • Is there really a difference in kids/people raised in the suburbs and those in the city?
  • What about suburbs vs country/rural? What’s your preference there?
  • Are the suburbs a good invention, or a bad one?
  • What’s the future of the suburbs?

Direct download: migs280.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:42pm EST

Because Gorilla Christopher is determined to get some writing in during his lunch break, here's what we chat about this week:

  • When did you first become aware of determination?
  • Are you a very determined person?
  • What is the best thing, to you, about determination?
  • What is the worst thing, to you, about determination?
  • Who is the most determined person you know?
  • Do you think there's anything wrong with not being a determined person?
  • Can one be determined without being ambitious?
  • As a society, do you think we place too much importance on being determined?
  • Is there anything you are determined to do before you die?
  • What's something you were once determined to do that you aren't anymore?
  • What advice would you give to someone who wants to be more determined to do the things they want to do in life?
  • We usually end by talking about the future. As we stare climate change in the face, do you think humanity is determined to actually do something about it?

Direct download: migs279.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:48pm EST

Very few people know Gorilla Shawn is a concert pianist and Gorilla Christopher is a chamber cellist. We are tops when it comes to our Mensa scores. Christopher swam the English Channel...under water, while holding his breath. Shawn can assemble furniture with his mind. Don't even get us started on our mad dance skills.

But still...we are the most talented gorillas you will ever meet, and we combine all our talents into the most important thing you will listen to this week: the two of us talking about...talent!

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We begin the episode discussing when we first realized some people were inherently better than others at certain tings...and then talk about when we first learned what talent was.

Find out if we were aware of our talents when we were younger and what we did to discover them. After that, we chat about the most talented people we knew growing up.

We devote a bit of time to talking about what we feel we're talented at doing -- and then discuss what we wish we were truly talented at doing. If that's not enough, we chat about the most talented person we know now...and who we think are the most popular celebrities.

We get a bit serious when the topic turns to wondering if society puts too much pressure on people to discover and use their talents...and we wrap it all up with this question: Are talents even important anymore?

Direct download: migs278.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 11:38am EST

All we ever wanted in life was to say we recorded 277 episodes of Men in Gorilla Suits.

Check that off the bucket list, babeeeeeeee!!!

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This is what we're talking about this week:

  • When did you first hear of bucket lists?
  • Do you have a bucket list?
  • What is your opinion of bucket lists?
  • What effect does social media have on bucket lists?
  • What is the best thing about bucket lists?
  • What is the worst thing about bucket lists?
  • Are bucket lists the domain of the privileged?
  • What are the top things on your bucket list?
  • Is there something on your bucket list you'll likely never do?
  • What's your oddest bucket list item?
  • Do you think an unfinished bucket list is a sad thing?
  • What is the future of the bucket list?

Direct download: migs277.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 12:03am EST

We don't care about SEO…we only care about talking about what we want to talk about…

[Shawn is like, "Damn, Chris…we're trending in South Korea and Malaysia…be cool, manl! Be cool!"]

(If he only saw the paragraph I deleted...)

He is right, though: Chill, Chris…chill…

And for those of you who listen to the show to hear English, the "CH" in Christopher is NOT the CH in Chill. (Also, thank you for listening. We'd rather people in South Korea and Malaysia listen than some angry redneck. But stalwart rednecks are okay with us...)

English…it's wacky!

Anyway...Shawn sings a lot in this episode...and makes Gorilla-Christopher sing along, so we're all golden!

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What we talk about this week:

  • Define a stranger.
  • Were you warned of “stranger danger” when you were a child?
  • Who is the strangest stranger you’ve ever met?
  • Are we, as a society, too afraid of strangers in general (like as in the Neighbors app, or immigration, etc)?
  • Our fears of others don't match reality.
  • What’s the worst interaction you’ve had with a stranger?
  • The best?
  • Do you think kids should still be taught that strangers are evil?
  • Have you ever been the mysterious stranger in someone else’s story?
  • Who’s stranger: you or me?

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Photo: Paul Garaizar

Direct download: migs276.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:45pm EST

So busy making things this week that we don't have time to tell you all the things we are making.'s what we talk about this week!

(Now Gorilla Christopher is going to go make lunch for tomorrow...)

  • What is the first thing you remember seeing being made?
  • What was the first thing you remember making?
  • Why make things when you can just buy stuff?
  • What are some kinds of making skills you’d like to learn? Why?
  • What is something you recently made that you thought was cool?
  • What is the coolest thing you've ever made?
  • Is there something you really want to make, but haven't gotten around to?
  • What prevents you from making certain things?
  • Why do you think things like maker's groups have become so popular?
  • Do you think society loses (or gains) something when people have everything made for them and cannot make things themselves?
  • Where do things like 3D printers, laser cutters, and other things fit into making things? Do they make it all too easy?
  • What is the future of making things?

Direct download: migs275.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:55pm EST

"Yeah, uhm...we're gonna need you to come into work tomorrow. I know, I's 4:49 on a Friday and you're about to leave, but...we have a lot to do, so we're working this weekend. Oh, you have plans? Plans can be cancelled...I mean, it's not like your kid isn't going to go on to play professional baseball if they're just on some lowly city league. They're already too far behind. The best they will become is someone just like you who will one day work on Saturdays for a bigger cause. Oh, by the way...I know your property has been in your family for generations, but we lobbied local officials and we all agree that the town would benefit more from taxes once a strip mall is built there, so just remember: you're getting a fair price when we assert eminent domain. Seeya tomorrow..."

This week, we're talking about corporations! Here's the list of what we discuss:

  • What was the first corporation you were aware of?
  • What’s the first corporation you were a part of in any way?
  • Do corporations have too much access to our daily lives?
  • Do you trust corporations with your data?
  • Do corporations have our best interests at heart?
  • Are corporations soulless and evil, or are they sometimes good?
  • What’s the best corporation you can think of?
  • The worst?
  • Which corporations figure into your daily life most?
  • Do corporations own us? The government?
  • Do you think corporations are too powerful?
  • What’s the future of corporations?

Direct download: migs274.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 1:05pm EST

Apparently the consequence of having a day job when there's a wicked cold going around the northern part of the Lone Star State is that you might catch that cold by going into the office.

The Gorillamen are in different stages of that cold, so please ignore any snarfiness in this episode. Also, we're just going to get straight to what we talked about this episode:

  • When did you first learn there were consequences for certain actions?
  • How much did consequences factor into your life when you were younger?
  • How much do consequences factor into your life today?
  • Do you think perceived consequences are often valid or are they overhyped?
  • Neither of us have kids, but let's pretend we do. What consequences do you feel are most important to explain to a younger person?
  • How does discipline factor into consequences?
  • What is one lax action and consequence you wished you'd heeded more?
  • What do you think about systems set up to measure results and force consequences (e.g. annual performance reviews)?
  • Do you think it's effective to suggest to others ways to avoid negative consequences for their actions?
  • As we rely on more tools (smart phones, apps, etc.) and institutions, what consequences come with that expansion of use?
  • Do you think it's possible to live a life of few consequences?
  • What consequences from the last decades do you think we will face in the not-too-distant future?

Direct download: migs273.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 2:47pm EST

Radiohead once sang about optimism.

It went a little like this:

Flies are buzzing 'round my head
Vultures circling the dead
Picking up every last crumb
The big fish eat the little ones
The big fish eat the little ones
Not my problem, give me some

We're a bit more optimistic than that, but about certain issues...probably not by much.

This week we will fill your hearts with hope as we talk about...optimism...

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We begin by discussing our own optimism...and when we were first introduced to the concept. Then we talk about the most optimistic people we knew growing up -- and who claims the title today.

We chat a bit about if it's easier or harder to maintain optimism as we age...and then devote some time to whether or not we're optimistic about the United States.

Find out where our optimism ends -- and what we try [and sometimes fail] to be optimistic about.

We answer these questions: Can relentless optimism be damaging? Or annoying? And then we offer our advice for someone who is not naturally optimistic.

And, of course, we wrap it all up talking about the future of optimism.

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Umbrella Woman Photo: Edu Lauton

Direct download: migs272.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:25pm EST

Look at that episode art! LOOK AT IT!!!

It's...super, right?! Shawn may not have the beard anymore, but his beard lives on in all our hearts. And Christopher...he's kinda super (for a crusty 50-year old!)

Hell, this episode was RECORDED on the day Gorilla Christopher turned 50.

So to keep the fleeting moment alive before entropy envelops him, you should listen to this episode!

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We kick it off with the first -- and last -- superhero movies we saw (and have seen). After that, find out our favorite (and least favorite) superhero movies.

We devote a little time to our best superhero movie experiences...and why we think superhero movies finally took hold in popular culture.

We chat a bit about if we prefer our superhero movies to match comics exactly, or deviate a bit...and then we discuss our favorite TV superhero shows.

Robert Pattinson as Batman has some slobbery geeks' undies all bundled around their pebbly nads. We give our thoughts on the latest Batman choice...and then talk about the superhero movie we'd love to see. (Gorilla Christopher forgot Justice League International...or an all out Booster Gold/Blue Beetle flick!)

As we approach the end, we talk about if we've experienced superhero movie burnout...and we wrap it all up with the future of superhero movies!

Direct download: migs271.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:53pm EST

Yo! Like, we never tell you about how Men in Gorilla Suits has afforded us, the Gorillamen, ridiculous side cash!

You might think we do this out of love for just making the damn thing, but why make the damn thing if it doesn't make a lot of side money, right?

Men in Gorilla Suits has made us rich! Ridiculously so, but...we work day jobs just because it's funny for the show. Really, we're cutting-edge entrepreneurs, out there on the fringes of society, hustling all the time and making the fat stacks of Benjamins!

Or maybe not...

This week, we talk all about side gigs...

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We kick it off with the first person we remember who had a side gig...and then talk about our own first side gigs.

We talk about the "gig economy" for a bit and if we're currently working any side gigs.

We devote a bit of time to the best and worst side gigs we've worked. After that, we chat about if things we do on the side today are strictly for money or other things.

If you listen to us regularly, you know we often talk about technology's effect on the chosen topic. We talk about how tech has influenced side gigs before chatting about the side gig we'd love to have.

But not all side gigs are good (in fact, many are terrible). We discuss them for a bit and then wrap it up with the future of side gigs.

Direct download: migs270.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:20pm EST

Gorilla Christopher starts a new job this week, so let's get straight to what we talk about this week:

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  • What was the first toy you remember?
  • What was the first toy you ever REALLY wanted?
  • What was your favorite toy from childhood?
  • What was the worst toy you ever owned?
  • How important are toys to childhood development?
  • What is the last toy you purchased?
  • What do you think about adults rushing to collect toys before kids can get them? (Like Star Wars figures, Avengers figures…things like that!)
  • Toys have changed quite a bit over the years. What is the most dangerous toy you once owned that they would probably not sell today?
  • How has technology affected toys?
  • Let's talk about the OTHER adult toys. Do you consider things like mini flamethrowers, GoPro cameras, and drones toys? (Or at least appeal to us as adults in the same manner toys appealed to us as kids?)
  • In the world of podcasting, some refer to recording gear as toys. What is your favorite podcasting toy…and is there something else you'd really love having?
  • What is the future of toys?

Direct download: migs269.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 10:53pm EST

Home office photo.

Working from home used to be the domain of fancy-pants novelists and snooty painters. Now, it's likely your schlub of a neighbor has worked from home. We say this with confidence, being those very schlubs.

Like anything, there are good and bad things about working from home. (Although Gorilla Christopher will argue it's all good.) Working from home is the topic of this week's Men in Gorilla Suits...recorded in our homes on a Sunday night...

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We kick it off talking about how often we work from home and then jump to the first time we heard about people working from home. Then we move on to our first jobs that allowed us to work from home...followed by our best -- and worst -- working from home experiences.

We chat about if we're more or less productive when working from home...and if we tend to work more hours when we're not in the office.

It could be easy losing all sense of time working from home, so we talk about how we manage things without being in the office. And then we discuss the best and worst parts of working from home.

We devote a little time to funny working from home stories, and then wrap it all up with the future of working from home.

Direct download: migs268.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:56am EST

You'll just have to trust us that this episode is good...

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We kick it off with our first memories of trusting someone, and then talk about how important trust is to one's existence. Find out who we trust most today...and what role trust plays in this podcast.

Next, we chat about how much we trust institutions like religion, corporations, and governments. After that, find out if our trust has ever been betrayed by someone...and if we have ever betrayed someone's trust.

We discuss why betrayed trust hurts some people so much, and devote a little time to processes we trust. From there, it's on to talking about if we trust ourselves to make good decisions and then wrapping it all up with the future of trust.

Direct download: migs267.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:04pm EST

Men in Gorilla Suits automated show notes.

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We begin with the first example of automation we remember seeing, and then move on to the most recent. After that, we chat about if we (and most people) could lose jobs to automated machines or algorithms.

What will humans do if machines and algorithms take over a significant number of jobs? We talk about that a bit before moving on to if automation frightens or bothers us.

Find out what automation we use at work and home...and where we stand on home automation.

And we wrap it all up with what the future of automation means for humanity.

Direct download: migs266.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:59am EST

You know that thing we did last week? We also did something similar three and a half years ago.

I know. It's like some Matrix shit.

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Category:general -- posted at: 11:41pm EST

You leave Radigast City at the break of dawn, traveling north until reaching an unnamed river. For days, the water is your guide as lush earth gives way to dreary moors and tangled thickets. Finally, in the distance, you see a white plume of smoke rising from a mountain in the distance.

Two miles from the volcano, you find a suitable cave in which to store your supplies.

"Dead Knoll's Eye Socket," your guide says. "This is where I take leave. Good luck."

With your traveling gear stored safely away, you make your way along unsettled the land, being careful to avoid any fissures venting steam. Levi, the party's thief, is the first to hear the mountain breathing. Once you all hear it, you realize it comes in a cycle: a thirty-second exhale of heat followed by a half minute of calm. The cave your guide said to seek now lies before you, about eight feet in diameter.

Suddenly, the whooshing breath of White Plume Mountain almost knocks you over. The torch Bautigan the Brave readied is extinguished by the blast of air. You have thirty seconds before the next wave of wind and steam comes your way.

What do you do?

Dungeons and Dragons. In the 80s, many claimed it was a tool of Satan. Today, it's a mainstream staple of pop culture. It's also this week's topic of Men in Gorilla Suits...

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We roll initiative and discuss when we first became aware of Dungeons and Dragons (D&D). After that, we talk about when we played...and if we still play today.

We talk about why D&D has endured for 45 years...and how technology has affected the game in recent years.

Because we are geeks, we devote some time to our favorite D&D monsters, player classes, and races.

We mentioned the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, which many claimed was the worst thing about D&D. It never came to be (because there was nothing to worry about), but that doesn't stop us from chatting about the worst thing playing D&D can do to a person.

Dungeons and Dragons has become a pop culture staple, and we talk about our favorite appearance of the game in something we've watched or listened to.

And we wrap up this episode with two things:

  1. Our favorite D&D memories.
  2. What the future holds for D&D

Direct download: migs265.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 4:18pm EST

Sometimes we go places. In the past, we went places.

This is about that.

Direct download: migs34_classic.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:24pm EST

Weird Al Yankovic and Stephen Colbert - Ed. 264: Last Seen...Talking about Parody and Satire.

Gorilla Christopher initially thought about opening Photoshop and adding your favorite podcasters' faces to images of celebrities known for parody and satire. But swapping faces with Weird Al looked like Christopher because he's apparently hair twins with the world's favorite accordion player. So that idea was scrapped.

And yes, obviously -- this week's topic: Parody and Satire.

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We begin by talking about the first parody or satire we remember -- and then leap to the best work of satire in literature and film. After that, we discuss the funniest -- and worst -- works of parody we've come across.

Find out our preferences: parody or satire. (Or do we like each equally?) Also, we tell you where we stand on parody and comedic music in general.

If you've ever wondered if either of us have attempted to write satire or parody, this is your moment! And with the current climate ripe for satire, we talk about where to find it.

And, of course, we wrap it up looking toward the future, asking what parody and satire will be like in the years to come.

Direct download: migs264.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 9:56am EST

I am so, so extremely sorry.

Please try to remain courageous in the face of this abomination, this second episode of Men in Gorilla Suits.

Actually, I haven't listened yet. It might be great.

Spoiler alert: It isn't.

Direct download: migs02_classic.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:07pm EST

Christopher and Shawn Obama-like HOPE poster.

Gorilla Christopher hoped to have this episode online yesterday, but he was tired and decided a busy week merited sleep, instead.

Here's what the gorillamen are talking about this week:

  • What is the first thing you remember hoping for?
  • What is your latest hope?
  • What does hope mean to you?
  • How important is hope to human existence?
  • Share a story of hope. (Could be yours, another person's, or even a universal hope of some sort).
  • Is hope a strong motivator in your life?
  • Is all hope inherently good?
  • Have you ever hoped for something bad?
  • Can hoping too much have a negative effect on a person?
  • When your hopes are not met, how do you react?
  • Obama won, in part, on a message of hope after what was seen as a dark time for the U.S. Is hope enough to win in 2020?
  • What is your hope for the future?

Direct download: migs263.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:33am EST

OOOH, look at me, I'm not working 97 hours a week!


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Category:general -- posted at: 11:38pm EST

Lightning strike. Last Seen...Talking about the Weather.

It is currently 53 degrees with mostly clear skies in the Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex. Weekend lows will be in the 30s, with afternoon temperatures reaching 60 by Sunday afternoon. A perfect weekend for getting out and about!

This week, we're talking about the weather...specifically:

  • What’s the first weather event you remember?
  • What’s your ideal weather situation?
  • What’s the most extreme weather situation you’ve lived through?
  • What’s the scariest type of weather on the planet?
  • What’s the worst type of weather, in your opinion?
  • Is climate change a thing?
  • Is weather a consideration in where you choose to live, or not to live as the case might be?
  • Are you a weather-centric person? Does it affect your moods?
  • What’s the future of weather on this planet?

Direct download: migs262.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 12:41pm EST

Y'all know me. You know how I make a living. I'll find your mess for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad mess. Not like goin' down to the basement and chasin' tax returns and odd socks. No movin’, no organizin’, down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that’ll bring back your family, put all your surfaces on a cleanin’ basis. But it’s not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. 

Direct download: migs94_classic.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:25pm EST

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A busy week, here, so let's just get straight to what we talk about this week...when we talk about consideration:

  • When did you first realize that consideration is a thing?
  • Was being considerate a thing stressed in your family. That is, were you taught to be considerate?
  • Have you ever worked in a job where consideration was highly important?
  • What about jobs where consideration wasn't important? (And if so, how did the job differ from those more geared toward serving others?)
  • Who is the most considerate person you know?
  • Who is the least considerate person you know?
  • Can someone be TOO considerate?
  • Share a story of considerate Shawn, and I'll share one about considerate Christopher.
  • Share a story about inconsiderate Shawn, and I'll share one about inconsiderate Christopher.
  • Are we less considerate as a society than we once were?
  • Do you think the current administration in the United States has affected consideration?
  • Do you think we will get more (or less considerate) in the future?

Direct download: migs261.mp3
Category:Pop Culture -- posted at: 12:54pm EST